Saturday 20th of April 2019

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by Anonymous on Wed, 2005-05-25 12:11

Hey Hamish, what an excellent letter. Beautifully put too. Couldn't think of a better intro to the backbenches.

I have emailed each of them individually to encourage them to stand by their words as I belive the majority of both Australians and Liberals will support them even if they hide it from JH for a while.

My impatience had been quelled and I apologise for it. It annoys the hell out of me too. I truly think this letter is what we can use to "show and tell" to help grow the group here.

Any chance of Margo writing a piece about it for WebDiary? An independent view of course, just highlighting the high standards we are keeping and what we are achieving. Or perhaps the truth might be necessary but I don't think there's much difference.

Well done Mate.

by Anonymous on Wed, 2005-05-25 11:10
A quick follow-up on PPPs and KBR

I'm waiting for an email from any in this list -

Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Finance and Administration’s Office:
Andrew Cox – 02 6277 2016 or 0408 057 226

Department of Finance and Administration:
Philip Smith – (02) 6215 3805
Lisa Wright – (02) 6215 2052 or 0408 825 164

to let me know who are the lucky 20 companies on the newly established whole-of-government Private Financing Advisory Services Panel.

A feeling in my socks tells me this Panel is where the business is done. Memo to myself: Stay on this one, this obscured corner is where the big bucks talk

Richard:... and if these folks are getting their hands on Costello's " Future Fund"...... ? Eg: who will own the Australian Submarine Corporation when it's sold?

by Hamish Alcorn on Wed, 2005-05-25 11:03
Great article by by William Maley, Refugee Policy: Towards a Liberal Framework. My kind of liberalism. Here's an extract: Australia's longest-serving Prime Minister, Sir Robert Menzies, had very firm views on how refugees within Australia should be treated. On 9 February 1949, he led the opposition in Parliament to the Wartime Refugees Removal Bill. Policy in this area, Menzies argued, 'must be applied by a sensible administration, neither rigid nor peremptory but wise, exercising judgment on individual cases, always remembering the basic principle but always understanding that harsh administration never yet improved any law but only impaired it, and that notoriously harsh administration raises up to any law hostilities that may some day destroy it'. In his call for sensible administration, in his demand for attention to individuals, and in his repudiation of harshness, Menzies struck a chord which every classical liberal should be able to recognise. Thanks to Tim Gillin (at May 24, 2005 10:30 PM), a commentor on Webdiary, for the link to this article.
by Myriad Mint on Wed, 2005-05-25 10:56

Building on that -

I suggest writing not only to these 4, but to all your local Liberal members. To them, highlight the conscience vote is a long-standing tradition in the Liberal party, and that it distresses you that Howard has ruthlessly quashed this democractic convention since coming to office in 1996.

Tell them that Australians want representatives who don't just blindly vote on party lines, and in doing so, ignore the views of their constituents on important issues such as mandatory detention & participation in the war in Iraq.

Allowing a conscience vote on Petro Georgiou's bill will revive a proud Liberal tradition, which is an essential democratic institution to balance blanket party line voting.

In addition, write to your local Labor MPs, congratulating Labor on its new stance supporting a Royal Inquiry into Australia's mandatory detention practices, and urge them to support this private members bill, and a Liberal conscience vote on the matter. Use this link to find your MPs and to help you craft your letters / emails / phone calls.

Finally - get it out to your friends / work network / whoever you are comfortable circulating it to.

by Hamish Alcorn on Wed, 2005-05-25 10:45
Margo has published the text of the dissenting Liberals' MIGRATION AMENDMENT (MANDATORY DETENTION) Bill 2005 on Webdiary, and seperately the same's MIGRATION AMENDMENT (ACT OF COMPASSION) BILL 2005. They're not utopian, but they are significant, and clearly come from a refreshing oasis of values.
by John Holland on Wed, 2005-05-25 10:06
Len all three of you are probably right.

But if a peg falls from the line and there is no one there to see it - will anyone know that the grundies now hang askew?

Will the suspect learn his future by reading history backwards?

Whatever the case, you are often a breath of fresh air Len. Keep up the good work.

by Anonymous on Wed, 2005-05-25 08:50
I agee, schitzophrenia has always been my way of expression. I would really fit in then to all people as well as myself because when I write to myself I will then be writing to Hamish and then as well as to the group and I can then kill three birds with two stones and satsfy all four of us and the group as well.
by Hamish Alcorn on Wed, 2005-05-25 08:43
Hi Pegasus. I'm writing to them now, from Your Democracy. Subject to feedback (be quick) I'm going to congratulate them on their stance, invite them to make their view known in the Dome (either by supporting the existing placard, "Justice for refugees and asylum seekers" or by wording their own about mandatory detention policy), and also make them welcome to this site to make their views known on any issue. But this will only mean more if individuals like yourself write your own letters, in your own words, to express what you want to express. Any mention of this site, the Dome or even just the importance of democratic institutions, helps the effort here.

If any of these Liberal backbenchers are your own rep, write to them immediately as a constituent. Otherwise consider writing to them anyway, or to your own representative encouraging more support for them. Petro Georgiou (Kooyong, Vic) P.Georgiou.MP@aph.gov.au 695 Burke Road Hawthorn East Vic 3123 Bruce Baird (Cook, NSW) Bruce.Baird.MP@aph.gov.au PO BOX 819 Caringbah NSW 1495 Russell Broadbent (McMillan, Vic) Russell.Broadbent.MP@aph.gov.au 10A Napier Street Warragul Vic 3820 Judi Moylan (Pearce, WA) J.Moylan.MP@aph.gov.au PO Box 1005 Midland WA 6936 Note that these are their office addresses and they're all in Canberra at the moment, so you may just wish to address to: MP House of Representatives Parliament House Canberra ACT 2600 I agree Gus, we have to work as individuals and as a group.

by Anonymous on Wed, 2005-05-25 08:43
I took a peek inside the Keelty loungeroom last night. From the webcam that's hidden in the frame of that picture on the south-side wall. Now, before you get all soft, this is not about rights of privacy, it's about entertainment. Ask anyone who tunes in to watch Schapelle snivelling in the clink, it's about ratings and fat-arsed prurience. Anything goes in the ratings wars, eh Kerry? There was Mick, watching Phil Ruddock in Deadly Justice (SBS Insight). The Death-Watch Beetle was being very clear, abundantly clear, the clarity was excruciating, that the arrests of the Nine Nongs was purely a police matter, and the government had nothing to do with it. That's P-O-L-I-S-I. Mick was getting up quite a sweat, being cut loose in such cavalier fashion. But I suggest he makes the most of the opportunity. Mick should accept the invitations to the executions, and take his camcorder. The market for American-style bloodlust retribution (er, patriotic fervour) is swelling. Again, some call it lynching, I call it justice. Mick could collect the spent cartridge cases, have them engraved with names and dates, and make a killing on e-Bay. He could even pick up an honorary doctor of laws from the State Islamic University. Flags, anyone?
by Anonymous on Wed, 2005-05-25 07:42
Pegasus, one of the MPs talking about changes to mandatory detention laws for asylum seekers is Judi Moylan. Perhaps letters of congratulations and support to her and the other recently enlightened Liberals would be helpful?

We have to remember though that these sort of backbench revolts usually go nowhere.

They are usually put down ruthlessly by the party hatchetmen such as Abbott.

A very clever tactic used by backbenchers of all parties is to pick an issue which goes against the party/government's line and oppose it in the media. After the sought after publicity has been received they then back down in the interests of party solidarity or fade quietly into the background, knowing they have planted the seed in the public's mind that they oppose that line/policy.

Nothing will have changed, but they will have pulled a few votes more for the next election.

There's a very nasty word to describe this practice. It's called POLITICS.