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  One day in the 1960s, a priest walked into an operating room in Cleveland to find a dead dog lying on the table. The transplant surgeon Robert White had drained its blood and cooled its brain to 50 degrees. The priest then looked on, aghast, as White spread a picnic cloth on the table and began munching on a sandwich.

 

 

 

Halfway through his meal, White asked the priest if he thought the dog really was dead. The priest said yes — right? With a merry twinkle, White set to work, recirculating blood and rewarming the brain. However groggy, the dog eventually lurched to life and began staggering around. At this, White winked at the priest. “Maybe like Christ,” he teased. “Dead and revived.”

 

 

White didn’t pull this stunt to mock religion; he was actually a devout Catholic who attended Mass daily. Nor was he simply showing off his medical skills. Rather, as Brandy Schillace explains in her delightfully macabre “Mr. Humble and Dr. Butcher,” White’s real goal was to push the boundaries of both surgery and theology, which he viewed as complementary fields — each one wrestling with big questions about life, death and the human soul.

 

 

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Indeed, White’s work got into some pretty heavy metaphysical territory. His ultimate goal in surgery was to transplant a human head from one body to another — purportedly to prolong the life of someone like Stephen Hawking. In private, though, White had an ulterior motive. He was fascinated with the question of where the human “soul” resides. In the brain? The body at large? He hoped head transplants would allow him to study the question scientifically. 

 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/08/books/review/brandy-schillace-mr-humble-and-dr-butcher.html

 

 

Well, this is a bit gross… So does transplanting a head on another body means that god exists? 

 

 

Not in a million farting Nellies!

 

 

Even with the best ability of reconnecting proper nerve endings, blood supply and flood lymphatic liquid to the transferred organ, this proves that one can transplant the driving unit of a complex system, with its own memory (hopefully), ability to control and perceive. It still would not mean that a soul or a god exists. 

 

 

It is likely than all the wrong and correct memories would be the same, but possibly traumatised, as it may be not a transplant of a head/brain onto another body but attaching a working body onto a head… Hey?...

 

 

Cut off the head of a whatiszname slug and the body will manufacture a new head. And the old head can manufacture a new body as long a there is ample “food” supply to regenerate beyond exhausting the internal proteosomes...

 

 

What was a priest doing in "Dr Frankenstein ’s lab? Trying to find out when death is final? Do dogs believe in god? The whole effort to marry an old tired idea of god with modern sciences is ludicrous. 

 

 

The religious mobs have often tried to smother sciences or circumvent sciences in order to prove that god exists — despite the ludicrousness of the process of unbelievable belief and weird rituals. But the illusionary package is powerful when dealing with our fears under the ruthlessness of life. Yes, the chosen people stopped believing in god and the story goes that, unhappy, god hit the humans in the gonads, with floods, fires and frogs. And wars. Let’s not forget the wars won and lost because god said so. Meanwhile the king This or That would become exhausted from having to perform sex with all his wives and concubines. What a way to die!

 

 

There is a current “fierce” discussion started on 11/3/2021 on the AAAS community about Science and Religious beliefs...

 

 

Steve Overton explains his views:

 

I wouldn't say I like using the word "debate" with my born-again-Christians and/or Evangelist friends, but consider it a friendly conversation  for otherwise, I know it will not end well. Such conversations require empathy and a lot of patience when the conversation touches on their belief system. The following are a few rules that I try to keep in mind with such friends.

 

 The first rule is never attacking their religious beliefs, assuming you want to remain friends with this person, but try to understand the why (source). The second rule is don't attack the source if from a religious text. The third rule is to be a good listener. Being a good listener doesn't mean you don't have anything to say; say it when you feel it is appropriate, but listen to what words they use, their tone, and their argument's structure. Separate, if you can, religious dogma (i.e., the Bible) from "non-scientific gossip" (sources from friends and social media). Non-scientific gossip, my catchwords for nonsense, is where your argument can take place but stay away from religious beliefs, for otherwise, the conversation will end. The final rule is that if you cannot change their mind, you probably won't leave on a positive note, assuming you want to stay friends.

 

 

On this site we have tackled this issue for yonks till we bleed without fear of loosing friends or family members. We also use a few foils, a few characters who, with relentless published enthusiasm, seems to think that the religious stories they have leant and been brainwashed with since childhood (or since they’ve been “born-again” with a new twist to the tales), are the only way to heaven, salvation, redemption — because we believe in heaven, salvation, redemption from sins, don’t we? No we don’t. We don’t believe in soul either. Simple.

 

 

Transplanting a head? Sure. Go ahead — forgive the pun. 

 

So what is driving us — us, the mad loony atheists?

 

It’s a long road of learning — of stylistic learning. And of acceptance of the finality of individual life. Life is ruthless that way. Loosing a friend is very sad. But hoping to see them again in a place of heavenly delights, wearing a white robe (or would they be naked?) is not going to bring them back. And they might be in hell. Who knows… No, we can only hope that our memory of them makes us better stylistic humans. And this what I have been expressing for more than 50 years: beyond mere survival, we have developed an ability to invent a variety of stylistic evolutions. Through the complexity of our memory which is bigger than what is needed for this mere survival, we have thus invented stylism, in which we will choose something spherical before a cube though they might have been assigned the same value — an irrelevant value for survival. This is our life of imagination and choice.

 

 

From then on, IF WE CHOOSE TO, we can create webs of ethics for better relationships with others and with our source — nature — while managing the animals that we are… This is freedom — a freedom that is frightening for the religious “minds”. With this freedom, we are FULLY responsible for what we do, rather than defer our failings to a set of superior beings, be a devil for our “sins” or refer to a god for our aspirations… 

 

Accepting that we are alone-together and fully stylistically in charge of what we do, is tough but highly moral — far more moral than blindly following any religious combos of dictums. But we are rarely prepared for this full frontal. Socially, we use tricks to make sure as a whole we believe in Santa Claus… “Have you been a good boy/girl?” Our rulers make sure we are under the spell...

 

 

And sciences are relative, though far more accurate than any beliefs. Sciences have helped us to survive better and should one need a new body, the head will do… relatively.

 

 

GL.

 

Rabid promoter of stylism since 1951...

a warning about lack of testing...

A group of scientists and doctors has ... issued an open letter calling on the European Medicines Agency (EMA) to answer urgent safety questions regarding COVID-19 vaccines, or withdraw the vaccines’ authorisation.

The letter describes serious potential consequences of COVID-19 vaccine technology, warning of possible autoimmune reactions, blood clotting abnormalities, stroke and internal bleeding, “including in the brain, spinal cord and heart”.

The authors request evidence that each medical danger outlined “was excluded in pre-clinical animal models with all three vaccines prior to their approval for use in humans by the EMA.” 

“Should all such evidence not be available”, the authors write, “we demand that approval for use of the gene-based vaccines be withdrawn until all the above issues have been properly addressed by the exercise of due diligence by the EMA.”

The letter is addressed to Emer Cooke, Executive Director of the EMA, and was sent on Monday 1 March 2021. The letter was copied to the President of the Council of Europe and the President of the European Commission. 

It states: 

 

We are supportive in principle of the use of new medical interventions.” However, “there are serious concerns, including but not confined to those outlined above, that the approval of the COVID-19 vaccines by the EMA was premature and reckless, and that the administration of the vaccines constituted and still does constitute ‘human experimentation’, which was and still is in violation of the Nuremberg Code.”

 

You can read the full letter here, and watch the video statement by Professor Sucharit Bhakdi, Professor Emeritus of Medical Microbiology and Immunology and Former Chair, Institute of Medical Microbiology and Hygiene...

 


No sooner did we deliver our letter than the Norwegian Medicines Agency warned that COVID-19 vaccines may be too risky for use in the frail elderly, the very group these vaccines are designed to protect. We would add that, by virtue of the mechanisms of action of the vaccines, to stimulate the production of spike protein, which has adverse pathophysiological properties, there may also be vulnerable people who are not old and already ill.


New data shows that vaccine side effects are three times as common in those who have previously been infected with coronavirus, for example. None of the vaccines have undergone clinical testing for more than a few months, which is simply too short for establishing safety and efficacy.


Therefore, as a starting point, we believe it is important to enumerate and evaluate all deaths which have occurred within 28 days of vaccination, and to compare the clinical pictures with those who have not been vaccinated.


More broadly, with respect to the development of COVID-19 vaccines, the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe has stated in their Resolution 2361, on 27th January 2021, that member states must ensure all COVID-19 vaccines are supported by high quality trials that are sound and conducted in an ethical manner.


EMA officials, and other regulatory bodies in EU countries, are bound by these criteria. They should be made aware that they may be violating Resolution 2361 by applying medical products still in phase 3 studies.


Under Resolution 2361, member states must also inform citizens that vaccination is NOT mandatory and ensure that no one is politically, socially, or otherwise pressured to become vaccinated. States are further required to ensure that no one is discriminated against for not receiving the vaccine.


The letter comes as a petition against UK Government plans for vaccine passports passed 270,000 signatures, more than double that required to compel consideration for debate by MPs. The petition will be debated in the UK Parliament on 15th March 2021.

 

Read more:

https://off-guardian.org/2021/03/11/doctors-scientists-write-to-european-medicines-agency-warning-of-covid-19-vaccine-dangers/

 

11 people?...

A federal government backbencher has called for Australia to pause its rollout of the AstraZeneca COVID vaccine, claiming the national medicines regulator is “not infallible”.

Nationals senator Matt Canavan’s call came despite senior government colleagues labelling any such a move an overreaction.

“I don’t believe the [Therapeutic Goods Administration] is infallible. I don’t think they’re the Vatican,” Nationals senator Canavan said in Canberra on Tuesday.

“I don’t have a lot of faith in the [World Health Organisation].”

Labor frontbencher Tanya Plibersek responded glibly: “I wouldn’t take my medical advice from Matt Canavan”.

Senator Canavan made the controversial call just hours after more European nations paused their rollout of the AstraZeneca vaccine amid a handful of health issues. The European Medicines Agency reported 30 cases of blood clotting from nearly five million people given the shot, while AstraZeneca said its review of 17 million people had shown no evidence of an increased risk of blood clots.

The WHO and Australia’s own TGA have backed AstraZeneca’s shot. The TGA said on Saturday that “extensive international experience does not indicate an increased risk of blood clots associated with the vaccine. Blood clots can occur naturally and are not uncommon”.

However, Senator Canavan cast doubt on both the TGA and WHO.

We should pause the rollout of the AstraZeneca vaccine because almost every European country now has concerns over its safety. There is no imminent threat of coronavirus here so why would we blindly rush on when others are concerned?

— Matthew Canavan (@mattjcan) March 15, 2021

“I think it’s clearly time for us to suspend the rollout here in Australia … We should heed the concerns,” he said.

“Given we’re in a country that does not face an imminent risk of coronavirus spread, surely the prudent approach here is to suspend our rollout.

“This may well prove to be a safe vaccine. There’s just not the imminent risk in this country, so why don’t we pause and take a breath?”

The AstraZeneca vaccine is the bedrock of Australia’s vaccine rollout strategy, with the government securing 54 million doses. Most Australians will receive it.

Senator Canavan’s timing is damaging for the federal government, with one million locally-produced doses a week of the AstraZeneca vaccine to roll off production lines at Melbourne’s CSL plant from next week.

A government spokesperson told The New Daily on Tuesday that “we will follow the advice of the medical experts”.

.@mattjcan is calling to pause Australia’s AstraZeneca/Oxford vaccine rollout after several European countries suspended use of the jab over reports of bleeding and blood clots #auspolpic.twitter.com/b8teh0KAnT

— Samantha Dick (@samanthadick00) March 15, 2021

Senator Canavan said he had contacted Health Minister Greg Hunt about his concerns, but had not received a reply.

“I’m not a health regulator but European health authorities are health regulators and I think we should listen to them too,” he said.

“The Australian regulator is isolated with the UK regulator with a certain position.”

Treasurer Josh Frydenberg said there were no plans to suspend Australia’s rollout, insisting it was safe to continue.

“Both the European equivalent of our TGA as well as the World Health Organisation have said that the AstraZenca is effective,” he told ABC radio.

“They have not found any causal link between the vaccine itself and blood clots.”

Labor’s shadow health minister, Mark Butler, said he backed the TGA.

“Labor has strong confidence in the ability of the Therapeutic Goods Administration to monitor any reports about potential adverse events, and to give appropriate advice to the Australian people and Australian governments,” he told The New Daily.

Environment Minister Sussan Ley, a former health minister, said Australia was “in good hands”.

“Please feel confidence in the vaccine, please, if you are offered it, take it, and remember that you’re helping many vulnerable people in the community if you are,” she told Channel Nine.

Health experts back AZ shot

There is no proof the AstraZeneca vaccine causes blood clots.

Blood clots are a common condition, particularly among older people, who are the highest priority for the jab.

Out of the 17 million people across Europe who have received the vaccine, AstraZeneca said there had been just 15 cases of deep vein thrombosis and 22 of pulmonary embolism.

Other licensed COVID-19 vaccines have reported similar rates of clotting in patients who have been vaccinated, according to AstraZeneca.

The European Medicines Agency, TGA and the WHO all say there is no evidence of any link between the vaccine and blood clots.

“There is currently no indication that vaccination has caused these conditions, which are not listed as side effects with this vaccine,” the EMA said in a scientific statement published on Friday.

The TGA’s statement stressed that “blood clots can occur naturally and are not uncommon.”

The regulators have urged countries to keep administering it. Britain – where more than 11 people have been vaccinated against the virus – will continue its rollout.

-more to come

 

Read more:

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2021/03/16/matt-canavan-astra-zeneca-vaccine/

 

 

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