Monday 29th of April 2024

from the wonderful world of spyland ....

from the wonderful world of spyland ....

The U.S. National Security Agency allegedly conducted spying on European Union diplomats, according to classified documents taken by whistleblower Edward Snowden and reported by German news magazine Spiegel on Saturday.

The NSA bugged EU offices in Washington and at the United Nations in New York and infiltrated internal computer networks, allowing the U.S. spy agency to listen to conversations and read e-mails and other documents, according to a classified document from September 2010.

The NSA also allegedly conducted a wiretapping operation of the EU in Brussels, Spiegel reported.

It pointed to a series of failed phone calls over more than five years that allegedly stemmed from a telemaintenance site in the Justus Lipsius building, which is home to the EU Council of Ministers. The calls were traced to the NATO headquarters in the suburb of Evere, where NSA experts were working.

The White House and an EU spokeswoman both declined to comment on the report.

Meanwhile, U.S. Vice President Joe Biden asked Ecuadorian President Rafael Correa not to grant asylum to Snowden, Correa said Saturday.

Biden said in a telephone conversation that Snowden was a fugitive from justice and did not have a valid passport.

Snowden has sought asylum in Ecuador, but has remained in a Moscow airport for days after fleeing the United States via Hong Kong. He is accused of leaking information about a vast U.S. spying program that examined telephone and internet records.

Ecuadorian and Russian officials were reportedly in talks over Snowden's fate, Russian broadcaster Rossiya 24 reported.

Correa said he told Biden that Snowden's request could only be processed once he was on Ecuadorian soil. Correa also noted that the U.S. had not turned over to Ecuador brothers William and Roberto Isaias, who are wanted for banking crimes and also did not possess passports from their country.

The White House confirmed that Biden spoke with Correa, but did not provide a readout, except to say the men discussed Snowden's case.

The situation has strained relations between the U.S. and Ecuador, with Ecuador claiming Thursday it no longer wanted trade privileges granted by Washington.

US Spied On EU Diplomats in Washington, New York & Brussels

 

meanwhile, in the home of the brave & the land of the free ….

 

You can’t spy on people in the USA

Comment on a blog site:

At a press conference to discuss the accusations, a National  Security Agency spokesman surprised observers by announcing the spying charges against whistleblower Edward Snowden with a totally straight face.

“These charges send a clear message,” he said. “In the United States, you can’t spy on people.”

Seemingly not kidding, he then discussed another charge against Mr Snowden – theft of government documents: “The American people have the right to assume that their private documents will remain private and won’t be collected by someone in the government for his own purposes."

And, if you like the comments above, the website techdirt also has an interesting video mash-up of Obama comments, interspersing his comments BEFORE becoming President with comments AFTER inauguration: http://tiny.cc/7ux3yw

 

quintet: where evil dares ....

News media, led by Glenn Greenwald, have exposed the massive US, UK – and presumably Australian – surveillance on innocent people’s phones, computers and other comms devices.

The surveillance is so widespread that it is probably beyond the practical control of the governments who have initiated, encouraged and ‘authorised’ wholesale spying on their own citizens, virtually without limit, and on citizens of other countries entirely without limit.

If there is any centralised control at all, it comes from a group so far not mentioned in any public discussion. That is the shadowy, secretive ‘Quintet’.

Here’s what Civil Liberties Australia wrote about the self-named body in 2011:

The third meeting of the “Quintet” of Attorneys-General was held in Australia last month (July 2011): it comprises the AGs of the USA, NZ, UK, Canada and Australia, who meet once a year.

Eric Holder (right), the US Attorney-General, said afterwards: “These (Quintet) ties

transcend parties and governments in each of our nations…”

Precisely! That’s what’s wrong with self-selected cabals – they “transcend governments” and become power fiefdoms in their own right; which is dangerous.

There’s little doubt they will start out benign in their early years. But, as time passes, cabals like the quaintly-named Quintet have the potential to be and do evil. They deserve the closest monitoring.

From August 2011 CLArion: see Quintet ‘transcends governments’, says US A-G Holder, p9 (also see Fusion melts boundaries of privacy and data holdings, p8): email secretary@cla.asn.au for a copy.

The evil the Quintet has allowed in mass-surveilling communications is now obvious.

Civil Liberties Australia predicts other evils they are now doing, or allowing, will become obvious in future. There is no doubt, for example, that the US has tortured people: there is no doubt that Australia has been at least complicit in at least one case.

No group should “transcend...governments”, which is how Holder describes the Quintet. Therein lies the danger.

The Australian Government should withdraw from the Quintet in the name of democracy. All the governments should dismantle the sinister surveillance cliques that are mushrooming uncontrolled.

The danger is that one day, these secret entities might be the government, or think they are the government, or believe they know better than the government. On first reading, this sounds alarmist...but, for a country further down the track towards this outcome, see the story of Hungary: http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/17/1984-hungarianedition/?

Civil Liberties Australia