Monday 30th of November 2015

getting far less than half as much for much more than the original cost....

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The cost-benefit analysis


The cost-benefit analysis of the NBN, released by Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull, is a welcome addition to the debate on what sort of broadband rollout Australians want to see.

But as with all studies of this nature, its findings are premised on assumptions, in particular a critical one about what Australians will want to do with a fast broadband network in the future.

This has always been at the heart of the debate over the NBN. Do we build Labor's NBN, with optic fibre all the way to the home or business in most cases, with an eye to potential future applications, even those beyond our current imagination?

Or do we build a cheaper multi-technology network as the Coalition is now proposing and provide faster - but not as fast - connections that will do the job now and for the next 10 years?

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The turdy solution of a fiddle-and-add-bits Malcolm NBN won't do for the next ten years. I won't even do in the next six months. People are crying out for better broadband speed... And Malcolm has no idea about what future demand will be... but which is likely to be exponential.
One thing for sure, with the need to reduce transport costs urgently for many "working people", home offices will multiply as they should. The only way to do this is to link them via high speed NBN. This can happen within the next couple of years... The cost of maintenance of a fiddle-and-add-bits NBN will prove to be higher than a simple fibre to home network. The future is in high speed communication and entertainment providers should push for Labor's solution....
Ah, I know, Mr Murdoch is totally against it... So we're going to go with the slow pace delivery and upload shit speed. The technology of fibre to home has been available for yonks, even since "cable" from Optus and Telstra were installed nearly twenty years ago in our streets electricity posts... So why are we fiddling with copper-and-add-bits erzatz NBN?... Idiocy plus that will prove costly in the long run.
Our technology whiz of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries would roll their eyes out at the retrograde installation promoted by accountants...


a proper analysis that is not politically skewed by ideology...


You can't compare fibre-to-the-premises to fibre-to-the-node without looking at the big picture.

The long-awaited NBN Cost-Benefit Analysis arrived last week and was seized on by the government to justify its preference for a multi-technology mix approach to the NBN, rather than the original plan of running fibre to almost every home. If you're still not convinced that the scaled-back NBN is a bargain, Communications Minister, Malcolm Turnbull, is happy to spell it out for you on a whiteboard – in a video explaining why fibre-to-the-node (FttN) is more cost-effective than fibre-to-the-premises (FttP).

Of all the flak the government copped in the media last week over the NBN, Turnbull singled out my comments – Government low-balling us on second-rate NBN – for rebuke. Turnbull challenged my use of the word "ignored", because I said his whiteboard calculations favouring FttN ignored the hidden costs of the multi-technology mix such as upgrading and maintaining the copper and HFC cable networks. He called on me to correct my mistake and apologise for misleading readers by claiming these costs were ignored.

It's not the first time Turnbull has taken umbrage to my coverage of the multi-technology mix debate and suggest I spend more time reading the reports. As with before, the closer I look at the fine print the more concerned I am that the government's long-running "near enough is good enough" approach to the NBN is selling us short.


My accusations of low-balling were sparked by Turnbull's whiteboard explanation of the economics of rolling out fibre-to-the-node rather than fibre-to-the-premises. He didn't offer specific numbers but clearly said that the cost of rolling out fibre to every home in a FttP network is "typically three to four times" the cost of rolling out fibre to street cabinets in a FttN network.

Turnbull then drew a line of this graph to illustrate that it's not worth building a FttP network because "the marginal utility goes to zero". In other words, by opting for FttP we'd spend a lot more to offer faster download speeds which people wouldn't pay for because they don't need it. The jump from 10Mbps to 20Mbps is a lot more valuable to people than the jump from 40Mbps to 50Mbps. Eventually people reach a point where they won't pay any more for faster speeds – that's the zero marginal utility line. The expense of FttP puts it well above this line on Turnbull's graph.

Meanwhile the graph's FttN column comes in very close to the zero marginal utility line, because FttN is so much cheaper than FttP by Turnbull's calculations. While Turnbull doesn't use the phrase "multi-technology mix" in the video, the obvious take-home message is that the government's NBN plan is a better deal for Australians than Labor's FttP plan.

Turnbull refutes my low-balling accusations by pointing out that the Cost-Benefit Analysis does allow for the extra costs of the multi-technology mix plan. My criticisms weren't aimed at the Cost-Benefit Analysis, they were aimed at Turnbull's whiteboard lesson. While he makes some valid points in the video, it is misleading for Turnbull to use an FttN versus FttP comparison to justify the government's new-look NBN.

Tunrbull's graph might be valid if you were comparing a national FttN rollout against a national FttP rollout, but that's not what the multi-technology mix proposes for Australia. You can't realistically compare the cost of FttN against FttP in Australia without conceding that, under the government's plan, the cost of rolling out FttN brings with it the extra costs of repairing and maintaining the copper network as well as extending and upgrading the HFC cable network. There are also the possible costs of coming back later to extend the FttP network in places where FttN is no longer up to the job.

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labor NBN really cheaper than turnbull's awful concoction...


Labor's all-fibre national broadband network could have been delivered faster and for less money than originally forecast, according to the confidential results of a  pilot study completed last month.

The pilot took into account design changes formulated by network builder, NBN Co, last year as then chief executive Mike Quigley undertook a substantial review of the project and identified initiatives to reduce its cost and length.

The changes, which include adjustments flagged in the "radically redesigned" fibre-to-the-premises option in the government's NBN Strategic Review, were tested for the first time in a scheduled deployment to 2484 premises in Melton, Victoria.

Fibre connections to the premises began in February and included old and new buildings as well as some in rocky areas considered challenging for the rollout.


The evaluation, contained in an internal presentation document dated August 2014 and seen by Fairfax Media, shows a team combining telecommunications firms Cemetrix, CommsConnect and Linktech Telecom was on track to complete the Melton rollout in just 104 days, compared with an average of 344 days in other areas.

Ninety per cent of buildings were serviceable by fibre by the end of August - 61 per cent faster and 50 per cent more cheaply than in areas using previous rollout models, the document said.

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The fibre to home is the cheapest solution in the near future of the NBN... But Mr Murdoch rules the roost on this saga...

Community TV to be booted off air by Federal Government...


Community television will be booted off air by the Federal Government in a little over 12 months.

Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull today announced that community stations would only be licensed until the end of 2015.

After that, they would not be granted access to broadcast spectrum and Mr Turnbull suggested they use the internet instead.

Mr Turnbull unveiled the move in a speech to a conference hosted by the Australian Communications and Media Authority (ACMA) in Sydney.

The move would affect C31 in Melbourne and Geelong, 31 in Brisbane and TVS in Sydney, as well as 44 in Adelaide and WTV in Perth.

Australian Community Television Alliance secretary Richard McLelland described it as a "death knell of community television in Australia".

Mr McLelland, who is also the general manager of C31, said he was frustrated by the decision.

"He [Turnbull] seems to have a view that community television is not worth having in this country," he said.

The community television stations currently use a small amount of spectrum that has been set aside for a fourth commercial television station.

Who knows, it might be a good thing as long as the minister for elastic bands allows for the fastest broadband speed with fibre to home everywhere rather than his present favoured concoction of bits... Then all TV will go that cable way and there will less radio waves in the ether...


now we know why the slow pace...

Yes, Internet TV is near, but there’s too much money in cable to go there


The entertainment industry sees its future online, but for now most businesses are making too much money from cable and satellite providers to put their shows and movies on the Web first.

Several executives at the Goldman Sachs Communacopia Conference in New York on Wednesday said they have daily conversations internally about when they will be able to take Showtime or HBO directly online. Viacom and Sony moved closer to that future with a deal Wednesday to bring 22 of the cable network’s channels to Sony’s planned Internet-based television service.

“We ask it all the time and are always looking at it,” Time Warner chief executive Jeff Bewkes said when asked if HBO could be offered directly to consumers online — without a cable subscription. “Now the broadband opportunity is getting quite a bit bigger. The ability to deliver something robust is stronger, so the question you are asking is getting more viable and interesting.”

CBS chief executive Les Moonves said premium cable networks like Showtime and HBO would make the most sense for that move. He said Showtime was once the “Avis to HBO’s Hertz,” but the network’s image has improved with critically acclaimed shows such as “Homeland” and “Ray Donovan.”

“What is the appropriate way to market your product? Is it good to go directly to the consumer? Is it appropriate to be streaming? What is the future, how do we grow these businesses?” Moonves asked. “I don’t think there is a media guy you’ve got up here that  isn’t involved every week” in those discussions.

But CBS also relies heavily on the retransmission fees they get from cable providers. CBS expects retransmission fees to reach $1 billion by 2016 and $2 billion by 2020. HBO, meanwhile, keeps adding new customers to its cable and satellite-only network. Last year, revenue grew four percent to $4.9 billion.

as malcolm's NBN hits another $15 billion...


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DAVID MARK: The cost of building the National Broadband Network could blow out by an extra $15 billion.

That represents an increase of around one third of its $41 billion original budget under Labor's fibre to the home model.

The NBN says it may have to borrow more money to meet the shortfall.

The Federal Government says its revised plan for the NBN is still going to be far cheaper than Labor's.

But one telecommunications analyst says Australia is getting a second-rate broadband network for an enormous amount of money.


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water in the copper network...

It is taking Telstra overall longer to repair phone lines damaged during extreme weather than previous years, leaving some consumers and businesses without service and ineligible for compensation.

However, the cost of fixing copper network outages in the street will soon transfer to the government-owned NBN Co, under a re-written multi-billion dollar deal with Telstra.

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Turnbull is unashamed of his crappy views (those of his master Turdy, of course) that have been designed to sabotage electronic communication speed in this country and please Mr Murdoch. The state of the copper wire network is a disgrace and the cost of repairing it, is not worth it. Replacing all with the blue optic fibre is the only way. And Labor knew that. Now the cost of fixing Turnbull idiotic network will triple up again. It is a well known fact in the trades that it's best to do things well the first time rather than save two bob and do a shoddy job that will cost three times the original amount to fix... 
If you've never peeped into one of those Telstra cable junction on which most telephone companies rely upon to deliver services, here is a good example. I have seen far worse than this one: