Friday 24th of October 2014

outrage, grief and the boogeyman...

boogeymann

The boogeyman as promoted by the merdia press...

Have you ever been in a classroom where the same pupils seem to always get the blame for misdeeds?... Whether it's the class bully or the poor simpleton, it's rare the real culprit for a misdeed is punished. I've seen some angelic clever kids doing their worst to see how someone would react for being blamed for something they did not do...


The classroom needs its boogeyman...
The western world needs its boogeyman. When Osama passed its use-by-date — a sad sod who had lost his influence in a changing world — he was unceremoniously taken out in a daring raid that had the added benefit of providing superman glory for the general in the White House. 

We could have hoped that with Osama being gone, the world would be safer... Ask the Iraqis about that... Since then, Osama has been replaced by various extremist leaders with names that are a bit too hard to remember, but it does not matter.... We have been primed to kick these extremist Muslim leaders in the guts, giving the entire Muslim community a bad smell. But the neo-fascist have also another boogeyman in another sphere of influence they want to loot.

Thus when flight MH17 was taken out, straight away all the fingers pointed out Vladimir Putin. He is the capitalist neo-fascist boogeyman... They don't like him... He is a ruthless bully who stopped them from plundering Russia, which they were about to do under the banner of freedom (free for all who can steal the furniture, the resources and get away with interests to boot), when the Soviet Union collapsed. They hate him for that — and they will show as much as possible how Putin is a thug because in order to stop the rape of Russian by the west, he had to do a few unsavoury things, like sending a few oligarch to exile.  

Unlike Obama who of course has "clean hands" — despite having killed many more people with drones than died on flight MH17... (but of course those he killed were all baddies, except women and children who would have grown to become baddies) — Putin is so bad, that we, in the western neo-fascist world, think it's time to take him out. 

So we straight-away placed the blame for MH17 being shot out of the sky on Putin without any evidence of sorts, and we feel smug in our accusations while plastering our angry sorrows by the bucket load and reef ceremonies, onto the Russian guy — because we "know" he's done it...

But there is a but. As the NSA spies on all our stuff, the Russians also spy on Ukraine. For the last few days, they would have had tried hard to understand what happened, since the finger is pointing at them, the boogeymen and they don't have a boogeyman themselves, so they are left carrying the can, they are the end of the line as far as the west is concerned...  They can object all they want, we won't believe them... They are our boogeyman. They "did" it!

Have we got any proof that the missile that destroyed MH17 came from Russia into the hands of rebels? No... but this does not matter at all. We've got a "hunch"... And we need to blame someone, don't we? The ruskies will do...

Have we got any proof that the missile was fired by Ukrainian-Russian rebels? No... but we assume this, because they have downed Ukrainian planes up to 25,000 feet a few days before (so what was a civilian airliners doing in this very dangerous airspace?)... And of course, that "very incorruptible" new Ukrainian government told us and showed us pictures and transcripts and this and that... or is this part of the illusion to get our boogeyman?

There is good chance that the missile was of Russian origin. We also know that the Ukrainian-Russian looted armaments from the Ukrainian army which mostly uses Russian hardware. This looting is where such a weapon could come from. As well we assume that the Ukrainian-Russian rebels do not have the expertise to fire such weapons. Balls! Some of the "rebels" would have been in the Ukrainian army at one stage or another. They would have the knowledge of the weaponry used and seem to be very much like an army rather than revolutionaries.

A Russian general is now throwing a spanner in our gun-ho decision to blame Putin... And the general's explanation is very plausible. There was a Ukrainian SU25 flying nearby MH17 about 3 to 4 kilometres on the side at the same altitude. His radar logs tell him so. I would suggest that we also get the Ukrainian radar logs which were very active before MH17 was shot down, then had a reduced activity after the deed. Would it be possible that the missile was aimed at the SU25 and hit MH17 instead... Who knows. Would it be that the SU25 shot down MH17. What happened to the pilot of the SU25? Does this plane exist?

The general was also intimating that the Ukrainians fired the missile — not the rebels...  Why would they do that? Very difficult to say... Were they trying to embarrass the rebels? For downing a civilian plane? Or was the hands of the Ukrainian tied up with the CIA? We know the CIA has been operating Ukraine for a long time... I know it's conspiracy theory stuff, but it is as much a conspiracy theory as our blaming of Vladimir Putin square on, until we know what really happened.

Meanwhile, as our own boogeyman Abbott demands the truth about the Russians, we're getting nothing about his ruthless activities on victimising boat people, under the vow of secrecy... and whatever... Shame Abbott, shame...

 

cover up of boat people by abbott ...

 

Tony Abbott has labelled interference at the MH17 crash site in Ukraine a “cover-up”, describing it as “evidence-tampering on an industrial scale”.

After the success of an Australian UN resolution calling for a full and secure investigation of the site, the prime minister continued to step up his rhetoric against pro-Russian rebels.

“After the crime comes the cover-up,” the Australian prime minister said, hours after his UK counterpart, David Cameron, accused separatists of shooting down the plane and warned Russia to change its approach.

"What we have seen is evidence-tampering on an industrial scale, and obviously that has to stop,” Abbott said.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/22/tony-abbott-labels-mh17-crash-site-evidence-tampering-on-industrial-scale

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 We have evidence of cover up in Nauru and on the water by Abbott and his cronies...

 

when justice is just a dirty word .....

Indeed Gus.

Whilst I’m sure some would share the flat-earth world view of ‘Mordochland’, that prime minister Tony Babbitt has handled the MH17 crisis with uncustomary diplomatic aplomb thus far, there are others perhaps more cynical who sadly but simply see the turning of a terrible tragedy into an instant media circus to be used to pump-up all the old ‘cold-war’ rhetoric on behalf of our masters on the Potomac.

Does anyone really believe that Prime Minister Tony Abbott & the keeper of the ‘death stare’, Foreign Minister Julie Bishop, dreamt-up Australia’s attempted foreign policy mugging of Vladimir Putin all by themselves?

Does anyone really believe in fairies at the bottom of the garden?

And if they do, do they really believe that the clown who told Japan’s Prime Minister that Japan is our ‘bestie’ & who singlehandedly persuaded Indonesia to withdraw its Ambassador could suddenly morph into a little aussie Metternich?

I’ll bet my sheep station that Tony couldn’t wait to play catspaw for the gang on the Potomac & I also reckon they lent him the knuckledusters to drag-along the ground behind him!!

As to the alleged distaste by conservatives of our Security Council gig, surely old ‘Fishnets’ Alexander Downer proved just how much actors from that side of politics relish the prospect of being on the big stage?

Perhaps I would be more inclined to give the budgie smuggler the benefit of the doubt had he appeared less ready to poke Russia in the eye before the facts of the situation were even established. Add to this his persistent impugning of Russian intentions & we see the once-would-be-Jesuit for everything that he really is (it only takes one brief shining moment for those who care to look).

And as for G20 invitations, if I was Vladimir Putin, I think I’d be reaching for that old Groucho March epithet about not wanting to be a member of any club that would have him.

Tony Abbott is the only human being I can think of who makes ‘justice’ sound like a dirty word.

a mistake...

yes John... now a bit of reality from the US:

 

Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 may have been shot down by "mistake" by ill-trained pro-Russian separatists, US intelligence officials say, dismissing Moscow's accounts of the incident.

The officials said they decided to brief reporters partly to counter what they described as misleading propaganda from Russia and its state-controlled media over the incident.

Evidence gathered so far suggests separatists launched the SA-11 surface-to-air missile that blew up the Malaysian airliner, but it remains unclear "who pulled the trigger" and why, said a senior intelligence official who spoke on condition of anonymity.

"The most plausible explanation ... was that it was a mistake," and the missile was fired by "an ill-trained crew" using a system that requires some skill and training, an official said on Tuesday.

Intelligence officials are cautioning the public not to expect a "Perry Mason moment" when all questions are definitively answered.

They cited previous incidents over the years in which both Russian and US forces have mistakenly shot down civilian airliners.

A Korean airliner was downed by a Soviet fighter jet in 1983 and US naval forces mistakenly shot down an Iranian civilian passenger plane in 1988.

"We've all seen mistakes in the past," the official told reporters.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-23/mh17-likely-shot-down-by-accident-by-russian-separatists/5616748

 

At the time of the downing of flight MH17, the airspace below 32,000 feet was closed to commercial airliners. Between you, me and a packet of budgie smugglers, there is very little difference between 32,000 and 33,000 feet as far as a war zone is declared. Ukraine would have had to know that the missiles used to down their planes at 25,000 feet were not toys and could go much further up. And was the SU25 shot down as well? Or was it a chimera in the imagination of a general...?

A sad mistake. May we all live in peace.

wrong again, annabel...

Annabel Crabb gets it wrong again:

 

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Tony Abbott hasn't wasted any time aspiring to get to know Vladimir Putin. Given a barn-door-sized cause for national moral outrage, a clearly identifiable villain and a rare opportunity to be a conduit for protest rather than the butt of it, the Prime Minister has not hesitated.

His language about Russia - right from the jump - was exacting and accusatory, although Putin might have struggled initially to register the Australian PM's insistence that he be "fair dinkum".

The dispatch of Julie Bishop - a woman who has spent her entire parliamentary career remaining cogent after long-haul flights and days on end without sleep - turned out to work perfectly.

Perhaps there is only room for one gym junkie at the G20. Perhaps all those years Abbott the right-wing student activist spent walloping the Trots lent Abbott the Prime Minister a certain fluency of expression. Perhaps it's the relief of certainty, in that rare geopolitical circumstance where the goodies and the baddies are distinguishable so easily from each other.

One year ago, one would not necessarily have expected a toe-to-toe between Vladimir Putin and Tony Abbott. One would not have anticipated these beyond-dreadful circumstances. And one would not, perhaps, have expected Australia's 28th prime minister either to have attempted so much, or to have got it so right.

Annabel Crabb is the ABC's chief online political writer. She tweets at @annabelcrabb. View her full profilehere.

 

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Annabel! How can you get it so wrong? Our turdy Prime Minster just followed the hysteria with some added sympathetic decorum under instructions from Washington to heap as much crap as possible on Russia. But so far we have no proofs whatsoever of what happened. Even the yanks think of MH17 as an "accident"...

Yes, Australia has lost 36 people in the downing of MH17. But that does not mean much more than serious sorrow, grief and some anger. Our sorrow should focus on the lives lost, our anger should be placed at the inhumanity of war and a few other factors. For example the mob that Abbott leads should all be in prison for having lied to war on Iraq in 2003 and be responsible directly and indirectly for more than 500,000 deaths.

It has been known that there is a conflict in Ukraine. The Russian majority in East Ukraine demands freedom from Western Ukraine or at least some autonomy. Whether this is a good sentiment or a bad move is not for us to judge.

There is a war, with soldiers on both sides armed with fierce weaponry. We know that a few Ukrainian planes and helicopter have been shot out of the sky up to 25,000 fee recently. Does this mean that this is the range limit such weapons can go? I guess not... No, some of the weapons in the hands of the rebels, possibly stolen from the Ukrainian army, can go as high as 120,000 feet. That's what these are designed for: to shoot planes down. 

So, this area in Ukraine is a war zone whether we blame Putin or not for it. Should Putin abandon the Russians in East Ukraine which for all count are nearly 80 per cent of the population? Should there be a compromise between Ukraine and the Russian of East Ukraine? Of course, but at the moment even in the Ukrainian parliament there are real fist fights about the situation... 

For a couple of decades, there has been CIA (and MI6) operatives in Ukraine to cultivate that country's move towards the west and the west has recently been tempting (corrupting?) Ukraine with extra cash for dancing the tune. 

Russia does not like it as it goes against the agreement made in good faith by the west and Russia when the Soviet Union bit the dust under Gorbachev. Thus whatever we might think of Putin as a thug, our own primal monster is a more of thuggish thug with policies at home that are neo-fascist to say the least. He and his mob have been shifting the goal posts to make sure the rich are getting more and the poor are getting less. 

This my friend is far more ugly as it is a deliberate action while the shooting of MH17, a commercial airliner that should never been in that air space in the first place, is an "accident" as far as we know... 

Our turd in chief did not get it right.

Peace, my friend... peace.

 

 

 

 

business is business...

 

Britain is exporting millions of pounds worth of arms to Russia despite fears Moscow is arming the separatist rebels in Ukraine suspected of shooting down a Malaysia Airways plane, MPs have said.

A committee report said 251 licences for the sale of controlled goods worth at least £132m remained in force.

The PM has criticised other EU countries' arms deals with Moscow.

David Cameron's spokesman said the UK had not sold arms to Russia's armed forces since March.

He also said the arms export licences still in place were for "non-military legitimate reasons".

The cross-party Commons Committees on Arms Export Controls said only 31 UK licences had been halted or suspended.

Permits covering sniper rifles, night sights, small arms ammunition, gun mountings, body armour, military communications equipment and "equipment employing cryptography" remained in force, it said.

The government said it was keeping all licences under review and the majority of licences that remained in place were for "commercial use".

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-28424395 

 

 

Londres critique Paris pour avoir vendu des armes à la Russie… et fait de même


Le Monde.fr avec AFP et Reuters | 23.07.2014 à 07h59 • Mis à jour le 23.07.2014 à 13h27

 

http://www.lemonde.fr/europe/article/2014/07/23/le-royaume-uni-continue-d-exporter-des-armes-vers-la-russie_4461403_3214.html

 

 

an accident in the raging soul of war...

 

Mr Khodakovsky blamed the Kiev authorities for provoking what may have been the missile strike that destroyed the doomed airliner, saying Kiev had deliberately launched air strikes in the area, knowing the missiles were in place.

"I knew that a Buk came from Luhansk. At the time I was told that a Buk from Luhansk was coming under the flag of the LNR," he said, referring to the Luhansk People's Republic, the main rebel group operating in Luhansk, one of two rebel provinces along with Donetsk - the province where the crash took place.

"That Buk I know about. I heard about it. I think they sent it back. Because I found out about it at exactly the moment that I found out that this tragedy had taken place. They probably sent it back in order to remove proof of its presence."

"The question is this: Ukraine received timely evidence that the volunteers have this technology, through the fault of Russia. It not only did nothing to protect security, but provoked the use of this type of weapon against a plane that was flying with peaceful civilians," he said.

"They knew that this Buk existed, that the Buk was heading for Snezhnoye," he said, referring to a village 10 kilometres west of the crash site.

"They knew that it would be deployed there, and provoked the use of this Buk by starting an air strike on a target they didn't need, that their planes hadn't touched for a week.

"And that day, they were intensively flying, and exactly at the moment of the shooting, at the moment the civilian plane flew overhead, they launched air strikes. Even if there was a Buk, and even if the Buk was used, Ukraine did everything to ensure that a civilian aircraft was shot down."

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Mr Khodakovsky said it was widely known that rebels had obtained Buks from Ukrainian forces in the past, including three captured at a checkpoint in April and another captured near the airport in Donetsk. He said none of the Buks captured from Ukrainian forces were operational.

"I'm not going to say Russia gave these things or didn't give them. Russia could have offered this Buk under some entirely local initiative," he said.

"I want a Buk, and if someone offered me one, I wouldn't turn it down. But I wouldn't use it against something that did not threaten me. I would use it only under circumstances when there was an air attack on my positions, to protect people's lives."

He added: "I am an interested party. I am a 'terrorist', a 'separatist', a volunteer ... in any event, I am required to promote the side I represent, even if I might think otherwise, say otherwise or have an alternative view. This causes real discomfort to my soul."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-24/mh17-ukraine-rebel-commander-acknowledges-fighters-had-buk/5619520

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Slowly one can make something of what is being said. I can believe the rebels are truly sorry for the downing of MH17. The missiles most probably came from the Ukrainian army. There was a heightened aerial activity by the Ukrainian airforce in the area — as also indicated by the radar logs from Russia. It is a tragedy that in a "violent air space" where there was a cat and mouse battle going on, between Ukrainian airforce and ground rebel forces, a missile was launched and hit a passing airliner instead of a Ukrainian plane — possibly "the" SU25 flying very close to MH17. Such missiles are aimed at planes but can switch target automatically should they miss the original target.

What was an airliner doing in such an air space with no room to move is contentious. Why was the airspace open at 33,000 feet but closed at 32,000 is something for Ukraine to deal with, as they would have had to know that the missiles in the hands of the rebels stolen or acquired from their own army, are able to reach 120,000 feet.

A sad sorry episode of another war. And Putin had nothing to do with it, except possibly encourage Russian rebels in East Ukraine to hold to their beliefs that they are right and/or supply them with weapons, like the US does to Israel or the 'rebels in Syria... 

Peace.

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ps: 

Ukraine has accused rebels of shooting down two fighter jets on Wednesday close to where the Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 crashed, killing all 298 passengers on board.

 

 

A spokesman for Ukraine's military operations told Reuters the planes were hit near Savur Mogila, a burial mound in the Shaktersky region where a memorial marks ambushes by the Soviet army on occupying Nazis during World War Two.

But a separate statement from Ukraine's Security Council on Wednesday said preliminary information suggested the missiles had been fired from Russia. Moscow has not responded to the claim.

"Two of our jets were hit at an altitude of 5,200 metres. According to preliminary information, the missiles were launched from the territory of the Russian Federation," the council said.

The military jets were downed just 35 km (20 miles) from the MH17 crash site in the village of Grabovo in eastern Ukraine.

 

 

 

read more: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/mh17-ukraine-fighter-jets-shot-down-close-to-crash-site-9623448.html

"no buk missiles in rebels hands..."

 

A leader of pro-Russian rebels in Ukraine has told the BBC that his forces do not possess the Buk missile thought to have been used to to bring down Malaysia airlines flight MH17.

Alexander Borodai, prime minister of the self-declared Donetsk People's Republic (DPR), said that evidence that showed otherwise was "fake".

All 298 people on the plane died when it crashed in east Ukraine last week.

Ukrainian pro-Russian rebels have been widely accused of shooting it down.

The Netherlands, where most of the victims were from, received the first bodies in a ceremony on Wednesday.

A second plane carrying more bodies is expected to arrive from Ukraine on Thursday.


'No Buks'


Mr Borodai rejected accusations that his men had neglected crash victims' bodies.

He also categorically denied the presence of the Russian-made SA-11 Buk missile system in the crash area. Western intelligence officials say this was the weapon used to shot down the aircraft.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28457737

 

Note: I placed the title of this piece in between quotes as to satisfy the anti-Putin lobby.

 

what really happened to MH17....

 

From a reliable source, from that part of Europe:

Flight MH17 was flying only 1000 feet (300 metes) above a no-go zone for civilian aeroplanes (32,000 feet).

A very dangerous situation to be in.

About 3,000 metres (3 kms) to the north, a Ukrainian SU25 was flying on a parallel path, at a lower altitude (about 25,000 feet). 

A Buk rocket was fired by rebels at the SU25

(the Buk missile came from looted stores of the Ukraine army)

The radar and anti-missile avionics of the SU25 detected the incoming missile

The pilot of the SU25 took evasive action and veered south east, (climbing to "coffin altitude" 33,000 for this aircraft) entering the "shadow" above MH17 by accident

The SU25 activated the anti-missile system which diverted the attention of the Buk missile

The anti-missile "shower" of the SU25 fell by accident very close above to MH17

The Buk missile exploded very close to MH17, taking it down. 

OR

 

OR the SU25 climbed to 28,000 feet crossing the flight path below of MH17 while doing evasive actions.

The missile accidentally switched (confused) targets and picked the "largest one" only a few thousand feet above flying at about the same speed (mach 0.8)

 

The radar logs should show.

 

Important note: The targeting system of the Buk missile has a "non-cooperative threat classification system" which identify and clearly distinguish civilian aircraft (radar) from potential military targets when identification of target is not clear from the launcher. This prevents "civilian" aeroplanes from being shot down. This is why the presence of an SU25 in the same air space would have confused signals.

Who knows. 

 

Peace.

shrapnelled...

 

Security officials in Ukraine say the downed Malaysia Airlines jet in eastern Ukraine suffered an explosive loss of pressure after it was punctured by shrapnel from a missile.

They say the information came from the plane's flight data recorders, which are being analysed by British experts.

However, it remains unclear who fired a missile, with pro-Russia rebels and Ukraine blaming each other.

Many of the 298 people killed on board flight MH17 were from the Netherlands.

Dutch investigators leading the inquiry into the crash have refused to comment on the Ukrainian claims.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28532525

 

Meanwhile everyone is blaming the Russians. Idiots.

 

see also: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/29/world/europe/civilian-death-toll-rise-in-ukraine.html?_r=0

 

Peace.

neo-fascist news...

 

The greatest concern about the events in the Ukraine that bothers me today is Rupert Murdoch’s deep involvement with politicians from various countries: Britain’s Thatcher and Blair in particular, American presidents from Jimmy Carter through to George W Bush and Australians from John Howard to Tony Abbott, Ariel Sharon to Benjamin Netanyahu.

How deeply have Rupert’s close and secret relations affected the range of wars that began after World War II and have continued through the 20th century into the 21st?

They are wars that were all unnecessary. They were all wars in which the Western powers and Australia were defeated – despite the lies of the politicians – who pretended afterwards that they had been successful.

North Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan were all costly defeats with horrible consequences for the people of those nations. In World War II, Russia’s Stalin took control of the countries to the East and the people of those countries have suffered ever since — some succeeding in different levels of freedom, others engaged in internal wars, like the Ukraine.

Wars sell newspapers and Rupert still lives in hope that he can bring his papers back to life. We will never know how much of his influence has caused so much suffering in these parts of the world.

http://www.independentaustralia.net/business/business-display/mh17-and-murdoch,6727

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As we have mentioned many times on this site, newspapers survive on reporting biffo, drama and wars. They also like to "expose" the occasional rorting of the system by the poor as if it was universal practice, thus all the poor known why they should suffer or are suffering — while the newspapers are promoting the good looking legs of starlets to encourage "hope" of success while only stirring vicarious dreaming. You know what I mean... 

The most influential news network on this planet is unfortunately that of Rupert Murdoch who was blowing the trumpet for Blair, Bush and Howard in their silly sad killer war on Iraq — and other stupid neo-fascist activities, such as promoting the freedom to do any business at the cost of the planet's health. 

 

a sanction game with no winners...

 

Russia has introduced a "full embargo" on most food imports from Australia as part of a wide-ranging ban on foodstuffs from Western countries that is in retaliation to sanctions imposed against Moscow for its policy on Ukraine.

Australian farmers will feel the effects of the sanctions. Australian beef exports to Russia were worth $159 million in 2013, butter exports accounted for $64 million, live animals excluding seafood accounted for $55 million and meats excluding beef were worth another $48 million. 

Overall, two-way trade between Australia and Russia in 2013 was worth about $1.79 billion in 2013, according to Department of Foreign Affairs statistics.

Those figures equated to $736 million in exports to the Russian federation and about $1.057 billion in imports from the Russian federation.

Late on Thursday, a spokeswoman for Prime Minister Tony Abbott said "we are examining the statement" from the Russian government.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/russia-imposes-sanctions-on-australian-beef-dairy-fruit-and-vegetables-20140807-101oc8.html#ixzz39hl5W9cS

Blaming Putin for all the ills in the world is not going to show a good outcome... First one has to look at the breach of agreement made between Reagan and Gorbachev back in the 1980s... NATO was not supposed to even contemplate going into eastern Europe... That was the agreement. What did the Yanks do under Clinton and Bush? Infiltrate the former soviet union satellites contrary to the agreement made... The Ukraine war is all about the breach of this agreement... Then the west wants to impose sanctions on Russia for the downing of MH17, which Russia HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH.  You want to play a mugs game? Here you are... Aussie farmers are about to loose far more than when the cattle ban to Indonesia came on...
Are you going to place an embargo on China, Brazil and India for being friendly with Russia? 
Our Abbott regime is run by dorks with their hands on their budgies in their smugglers, trying to make it look like their hand is on their heart... Idiots!

 

 

See the chest beating neo-fascist media at top...


Meanwhile the French and the Poms are still selling weapons to Russia (all for credit for gas and oil)...