Saturday 20th of July 2019

JIT jitters, porkies, lies, a musician and a belling cat on MH17...

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Everything on Bellingcat and the official inquiry into the destruction of Flight MH17

 


by  Jürgen Cain Külbel

Jürgen Cain Külbel is an ex-investigator for the criminal police of the Democratic Republic of Germany. He became a journalist after the reunification of Germany. He has managed to identify the author of the reports posted on the Bellingcat site which influenced the international police team tasked by Ukraine with establishing the cause of the destruction of Flight MH17. This amateur, who « found » evidence of Russian guilt which he claims to be « irrefutable », is in reality a musician, with no competence whatsoever in criminalistics.

 

 

 

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A bouquet of flowers on the wreckage of Flight MH17. This Boeing 777, travelling from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, was destroyed on 17 July 2014 over the zones of combat between the Kiev putchists and the Donbass independentists, killing the 298 persons on board. Since then, the two camps have been accusing one another of being responsible for this catastrophe. The Western powers finally adopted the hypothesis published on the British Internet site Bellingcat. 
Daniël Romein and the journalists of De Volkskrant

He calls himself Daniël Romein. That is not his real name. We made an appointment to meet in a cafe. He sits down, seeming a little embarrassed. He has a friendly face. From time to time, he glances to the right. Then he looks at the people outside who are walking in the rain. « I always try to have a head start on my adversary », he says. And for him, the enemy is Russia. He wants to take precautions. « As a specialist in computers, I know what counter-measures I need to apply ». And he adds - « This job is risky, because I know that the Russians are really unhappy about our research ».

In February 2016, Daniël Romein met with a group of journalists in this cafe [1] - secretly, of course. Huib Modderkolk and Bert Lanting from the Amsterdam daily De Volkskrant wrote later that Romein’s « discoveries » were the foundation of the Bellingcat reports in 2015 and 2016 on the catastrophe of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 (MH17). Jikke Zijlstra and Michael de Smit, of Nederlandse Omroep Stichting (NOS), a Dutch public service radio station, noted that - « Although [British subject Eliot] Higgins is the founder of Bellingcat, their Dutch employee, Daniël Romein, wrote the greater part of the report (in 2016) ». Modderkolk and Lanting even wrote that Romein had provided the basis for these reports, that he was the principal author of the studies, and that he works « in secret for the Bellingcat research collective. Almost no-one knows this. His family, his friends, his colleagues – most of them don’t know. He likes to maintain a small circle. He himself estimates their number at a maximum of ten. Last year (2015), he was engaged in research to discover which Russian soldiers were implicated in the destruction of Flight MH17 », and uses « his computer as a weapon. He watches his screen for hours, scrolling through Russian Web sites and the social media. He does this by choice, on top of his work as an IT professional. Sometimes he works very late – until two o’clock in the morning - and comes to work at the office the next morning with tired eyes ... that’s when it becomes difficult, and he can’t talk to anyone. « Sometimes it feels as if I’m living a double life ». Romein declared to the journalist that media attention should be focused on the people involved rather than on himself – he wants remain anonymous. « Only his colleagues in Bellingcat know his real identity », affirms De Volkskrant.

Daniël Romein, liaison agent between Bellingcat and the Joint Investigation Team

Around Christmas 2015, on the request of the founder of Bellingcat, Eliot Higgins, Romein sent his work of investigation and that of Bellingcat to the Dutch Openbaar Ministerie, in other words the Public Prosecutor’s Office, which takes precedence over the Joint Investigation Team (JIT) tasked with the international criminal investigation into the catastrophe of Flight MH17. The Public Minister declared that he would « pay serious attention to the information, including its usefulness for the criminal investigation ». « They are satisfied with our efforts and our work », declared Romein, who has regular contacts with the detectives from the JIT. For example, on an invitation from the JIT, he had on numerous occasions exchanged information on Bellingcat’s enquiries with the Public Prosecutor’s team. Eliot Higgins, the head alchemist of Bellingcat, was twice heard as a witness.

Bellingcat’s « criminological investigators »

Eliot Higgins’ firm Bellingcat, the « research platform of citizen journalists » which brags that it carries out « criminalistic enquiries », enjoys an uninterrupted barrage of media hype in the dominant Western medias – due to their « investigations » into the catastrophe of Flight MH17 or in the case of the poisoning of the Skripals. However, the methodology of the group, its conclusions, and its impartiality raise some very serious doubts. The dominant Press unhesitatingly elevates the members of the team to the rank of « experts ». But the Bellingcats charged in 2015 and 2016 with the enquiry into the affair of Flight MH17 do not stand out either as recognised experts, nor as investigators who specialise in the legal sciences. They are

- Pieter van Huis (Dutch), degree in History, 
- Stijn Mitzer (Oryx), analyst and blogger, 
- Daniel Romein, IT specialist 
- Sean Case (British), specialist in environmental sciences and plants, 
- Eliot Higgins, director of Bellingcat, without any significant qualification, 
- the Americans Andrew Haggard, ex-member of the US army, 
- Aric Toler, literary researcher and linguist, 
- Nathan Patin, ex-intern in foreign politics and defence for the American Enterprise Institute think tank in Washington, 
- Veli-Pekka Kivimäki (Finnish), an officer at the University of the Finnish Defence Forces in Helsinki, 
- Olaf Neitsch alias Timmi Allen (German), ex-employee in a service of the Ministry of State Security of the RDA , ex-owner of a pub, today an insurance salesman, 
- Igor Ostanin (Magnitski), (Russian) freelancer, as well as Anders Klement of StopFake, an anti-Russian propaganda initiative based in Kiev.

We should keep on mind - independent of the fact that Bellingcat is supported by sponsors such as George Soros’ Open Society – that among the « founding members » of the group in 2014 and 2015, we find the British ex-spy Cameron Colquhoun and Nour Bakr from the British Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Chris Bigger from the US National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) as well as Christoph Koettl from the New York Times, Leroy Aliaume from BBC World, and Aaron Stein from the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI), a British research institute connected with the Intelligence Services – even a blind person could understand where Bellingcat’s « expertise of savoir-faire » is going. Their intention is to howl like a cat in heat, and make a lot of noise, all of it aimed at Russia.

Neutrality, objectivity, impartiality – the qualities which should distinguish a professional investigator and an expert – do not work this way. Normality in the daily life of the legal and security organisms of each country resides in the fact that the criminalistic investigations and associated reports are carried out by qualified experts, and that the resulting report, like any other proof, has in any case no conclusive value if it has been decided in advance. Only the tribunal can decide on its conclusive value. The reports must therefore contain a certain number of definite qualitative characteristics, such as the presentation of elements of proof, the method of investigation, etc. Journalists from the general public, in particular those of the trans-Atlantic persuasion, deliberately ignore the necessity of a precise scientific and legal approach, and fail to question the accuracy of Bellingcat’s reports on any point. They therefore practice the art of copy and paste so that later, they will be able to pocket the coward’s reward of thirty pieces of silver.

Why is « Daniël Romein » investigating the catastrophe of Flight MH17?

Question of the enquiry: What motivates Daniël to analyse the catastrophe of MH17?

Result of the enquiry: Modderkolk and Lanting have written that « the images haunted him ». For him, the catastrophe is a mixture of terror and obsession… He has been interested in this region for some time. He learned Russian a long time ago … He visits all sorts of Web forums. « I wanted to know who did it ». The members of the Dutch forums seem ill-informed. He quickly seeks out Ukrainian and Russian forums. « Jikke Zijlstra and Michael de Smit from NOS, who qualified the search for the authors of these crimes as being almost obsessional », gave us this quote: « It’s on my mind a lot. The catastrophe really moved me. I thought it was so terrible, I was so angry, even though I knew none of the victims personally,.I wanted to know who were the idiots behind it all ».

The genesis of the research into the « Daniël Romein » Character

According to Wikipedia: « Open-source intelligence (OSINT) is data collected from publicly available sources to be used in an Intelligence context.[1] In the Intelligence community, the term "open" refers to overt, publicly available sources (as opposed to covert or clandestine sources) ». The definition is rather pretentious, since it concerns no more than the minimal daily work of criminal investigations; going from house to house, knocking on doors, so to speak – but in this case, it means visiting the Internet on the World Wide Web, scrolling from blog to blog, from post to post.

Knocking on the doors of OSINT via Yandex and Google in order to find « Daniël Romein » led nowhere; most of the entries were linked to Bellingcat. However, the Dutch search engine Geneanet proposed the variant « Romein / Romijn ». The entry « Daniel Romijn » generated almost 2 million results. Using the combination « Romein Romijn », Commissioner Hasard found a broken link which it was possible to reconnect with the Wayback Machine: on the page Pink Floyd Fans Nederlands, the Floydian author Theo wrote about the musician « Danyo Romijn (keyboards, guitar, Hammond) », whom he named, a few lines further on in the same message, as « Danyo Romein ». Research into the meaning and origins of the name reveals that « Danyo » is the German variant of Daniel.

Searching for « Daniël Romein »

From the rare publications in the Dutch media on « Daniël Romein », we note that he

- has been working for Bellingcat since November 2014, 
- is Dutch, 
- is an IT specialist, 
- works in an office during the day, 
- speaks fluent Russian and 
- has skills in photography.

Answer 1: Daniël Romein, Danyo Romijn and computer science

The search using « Daniël Romein » and « IT » gave no results; « Danyo Romijn », associated with « IT » hit the spot on Linkedin. On that site, a certain « Danyo Romijn » from The Hague introduces himself as an « IT expert in the management of applications, and developer of software ». After having studied computer science at the Den Haag University of Applied Sciences (from 1988 to 1995), he worked from February to September 1996 as a developer of software at the Ministerie van Binnenlandse Zaken en Koninkrijksrelaties (Minister of the Interior and Relations of the Kingdom - BZK) before being transferred to the Immigratie - en Naturalisatiedienst (Immigration and Naturalisation Service - IND). As from May 1997, he pursued his activities in the IT sector as a developer of software and Web applications from April 2010 to November 2016 as a specialist in IT applications in the province of Zuid-Holland. In November 2016, he changed direction and joined the team of the POSG Den Haag project, provider of services for Work and Careers. Danyo Romijn’s profile on Contactout.com identifies him as a specialist in IT technologies, a regional coordinator in the province of Zuid-Holland, and a member of the Tibet Support Group; on contactout.com one can also find a fragment of his email address - d****n@gmail.com.

Answer 2: « Danyo Romijn » and « Photography »

A search using a combination of « Danyo Romijn » and « Photografie » revealed another match.

Beeldbank Haags Gemeentearchief not only proposes photos by « Danyo Romijn », with all sorts of views of the street, but also his complete electronic address: d****@gmail.com (which we shall not reveal here). In Europeana’s online collection, you can also see 152 photos by « Danyo Romijn ».

Answer 3: « Danyo Romijn » and « MH17 »

The search for « Danyo Romijn » combined with « MH17 » provided a break-through. From Monday 4 to Wednesday 6 August 2014, a user named « Danyo Romijn » published a total of 14 contributions concerning his own enquiries about the catastrophe of MH17 on the English-language discussion forum Niqnaq. He posted links to photos from the Russian and Ukrainian medias, and described his research on a multi-lingual Russian social network, Vkontakte.ru, on DNR Press, on the page of the Ukrainian Intelligence services, on the page of the Russian Minister for Foreign Affairs, concluding that the « rebels » of Donetsk, who had stolen the BUK-M1 missile system on 29 June 2014, could have used it to shoot down the plane. He also deduced that the shape of the « impact holes » in the cockpit could have been made by a BUK-M1, but at this moment formulated no direct incriminations. In short, he had looked into this affair extensively at that time; far more than an average consumer who wishes only to inform himself. This « Danyo Romijn », we may now affirm with a probability close to certainty, had researched the matter in full knowledge of the facts.

Question of the enquiry: Is Danyo Romijn, the user who had signed on to Niqnaq, really identical to the Dutch IT specialist « Danjo Romijn »?

Result of the enquiry : « An IP address is an address on the IT networks, which, like the Internet, is based on Internet protocol. It is given to the computers which are connected to the network, rendering them addressable and thus accessible », indicates Wikipedia. From the United Kingdom, the author received the information that user « Danyo Romijn » had connected to Niqnaq with the IP address 213.86.41.20 and the email address d****n@gmail.com, which had already been attributed to Dutch user Danyo Romijn. This IP denomination belongs in turn to a « composite » IP - IP 213.86.41.16 à 213.86.41.23 – of du NET-NL-PROVINCIE-ZUID-HOLLAND.

Intermediate result: The Danyo Romijn who really exists had apparently used his name and his electronic address in August 2014 on the Niqnaq forum during a discussion on the catastrophe of Flight MH17.

Question of the enquiry: Is the Danyo Romijn who really exists the same Daniel Romein who works for Bellingcat?

Result of the enquiry: On the English-language discussion forum Websleuths, at 2.22 p.m. on 2 November 2014 (the post had been erased, but was able to be « resuscitated » by the author), a commentator named « danyoromijn » appeared and added a single post during the discussion on the affair of Flight MH17 : « Hi everyone, this is my first post on this subject on Websleuths, but I’ve been here since 17 July, and I’ve read everything about Bellingcat here and on numerous other sites, including sites in Ukrainian and Russian (I can read a little Russian - Google Translate is my friend). I went to Ukraine and to Russia (in Ukraine recently, I mean two years ago, and to Russia fourteen years ago), which helps me to understand things a little better. I’m surprised that there are only 16 pages on Websleuths when there is so much information we could share … Well, since it’s so complex, I haven’t yet published anything about MH17, but now I have some information which I’d like to share with Bellingcat… ».

This user « danyoromijn » also reveals personal information. First of all, he speaks a little Russian. Secondly, the Danyo Romijn who really exists, as claimed by « danyoromijn » on Websleuths, went to Moscow, the capital of Russia, in 2000, and two years later, to Ukraine, where he visited Kiev, Cherkasy, Kirovohrad, Vinnytsia, Zhytomyr, Khmelnytskyi, Lviv, Chernivtsi, Ternopil, Volhynia, the Zakarpattia Oblast, and Rivne. To sum up – so far, Romijn has visited more than 50 countries, including Belarus in 2004, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia in 2008 and also the United Kingdom in 2015, the home of the « chief expert » for Bellingcats, Eliot Higgins.

A reminder - on 2 November 2014, « danyoromijn » posted on Websleuths that he would like to share some information with Bellingcats. We remember the comments by Modderkolk and Lanting from De Volkskrant, who, in February 2016, described the « work » of Daniel Romein, a member of Bellingcat, in the following terms - « He examines the photos taken by the Russian military forces on Vkontakte, and thus gets to know the region and the Russian military presence. He gleans his topographical knowledge mainly from Google and its Russian equivalent Yandex. In order to collect more photos, he watches the amateur images taken from Dashcams, cameras which film the road as people drive. For hours, he walks back and forth in his room, as if he were journeying to the other side of the frontier between Russia and Ukraine ».

Then - « In November 2014, he sent the summary to the British founder of Bellingcat, Eliot Higgins, who thanked him warmly in return. Two weeks later, he received another email from Higgins. Romein said - « He was impressed when I wanted to do more ». Which he did. There was a flurry of exchanges by e-mail, and Higgins asked Romein if he wanted to join the group. Romein had difficulty in understanding the meaning of that. There was no selection committee, he was not asked to send a letter or even undergo a telephone interview. He met no-one. He had never even shaken Higgins’ hand. In fact, nothing changed. Well, he has access to Bellingcat’s « i-channels » - an information platform where members of Bellingcat send one another messages, which are coded. Roman therefore became the seventh member of Bellingcat » .

Initial meeting and communication with Danyo Romijn

At the end of February and the beginning of March, the author contacted Danyo Romijn – the two electronic addresses d***n@gmail.com and i**o@danyo.nl turned out to be active - and invited him to answer the following questions:

Author: « Do you have a degree or any training in digital criminalistics and / or digital criminalistics for the study of images? Do you consider yourself an expert in criminal investigations? Do you know how to carry out legal and criminal investigations? »

Since Romijn threatened the author with prosecution, I am only able to quote his replies from memory. After three requests by email, Romijn replied - « I’m sorry, you’re confusing me with someone else. I have nothing to do with Flight MH17 ».

Author: « I am not confusing you with anyone. I followed your previous IP 213.86.41.20 (NET-NL-PROVINCIE-ZUID-HOLLAND). You used it for your communications concerning MH17. We should talk. »

Romijn’s repose, quoted from memory: « My previous job was indeed in the Provincie Zuid-Holland. But I am absolutely certain that we never had any contact by email, and certainly not about Flight MH17. I may have sent someone an email about it, but there’s nothing strange about that. Almost everyone in Holland was talking about it. »

Author : « You’re right, we have not yet had an exchange of emails. I don’t have any emails that you wrote to anyone. I’m talking about your own lP 213.86.41.20, connected to much detailed information concerning Flight MH17 which was researched, produced and written by you a few years ago. »

Romijn’s reply from memory: « That IP address is a general IP address from my previous job, and is one of the rare IP addresses listed on line: http://www.lookip.net/whois/213.86.41.20. However, I can see no connection between that IP address and any activity by me. My ex-employer would probably not have accepted my writing long fragments of text which were not linked to my work. Whatever you want to write and publish, do not forget that the laws on the protection of personal data are very strict in Holland and Germany. and if you write anything totally stupid about me, you’ll only ridicule yourself - with the added risk that your article may be deleted. And if you break the law, if you commit a digital hack, you also risk an extra ten days in prison. Of course, you may write about my journeys, my work, and my music. I hope that a few people will order my latest CD because of your publication. Smiley. »

Author : « You were very active for a while with that IP address (also linked to one of your message accounts) in order to do your research work on Flight MH17. 
Please send me a sworn declaration stating that you, Danyo Romijn, have never used the general IP address 213.86.41.20 to research, write or send information about Flight MH17. »

Background information about Danyo Romijn

That was the end of my contact with Danyo Romijn. The explanation I requested never arrived, but on the contrary, he deleted his Internet page from the network, and also deleted items on numerous data portals which gave information about himself. However, the author had saved all important data before contacting Romijn.

It is remarkable to note the abundance of information that Danyo Romijn posted on the Web. On his Web site, which was emptied out and is currently « in construction », it is stated that he was born in The Hague on 14 May 1970, where he still lives, that he has a daughter named Patricia, born on 20 October 2005 in The Hague, that he has been divorced since 2009, and has the partial charge of his daughter. « My work since 1996 has been developing software and Web applications, but I also have experience in the management of application changes. I recently followed courses in project management. As well as my job, I have also participated in the development of sites ... ». Apart from Web sites, his favourite hobbies are his journeys, his music, and his photography. « As far as my journeys are concerned, I have not only travelled in Europe, but also in India, Nepal, Cuba, Aruba and Curaçao. I mostly take photographs when I’m travelling, but I also photograph nature and my daughter. I’ve been working in music for years, as a listener, but also for many years in musical groups and musical projects. Now I play music at home with synthesisers ». Then comes a list of his favourite music, his favourite films, his favourite comedies, his favourite books, his favourite drink, his favourite pet, his favourite colours and his private email address i**o@danyo.nl, Elsewhere, in the forum for Singles Wamba, he gives his height, 1.83m, and his weight, 90kg. He does not smoke, is a social drinker, has a regular income, and would like to meet a « girl » aged between 36 and 40, or else a woman aged between 37 and 45. The difference is not clear for the author. He also practices a Korean form of martial arts, the Taekwondo Koryo.

Danyo Romijns reveals not only all the details of his professional career on his old Web site, but also his leisures - « I also really like photography, which I usually practice on holiday, but also architecture (old buildings), nature, and of course family photos, for example of my daughter Patricia. I always think of myself as an amateur / leisure photographer, even though I have a good eye for composition ». Then he draws up a list of various types of camera which he claims are his.

We can’t confirm that this is a leisure activity, but the Single Romijn is also on the lookout for a woman. Even on this subject, the blood of an investigator courses through his veins. On the Dutch dating site Lexa.nl, he discovered « bad » things, and immediately complained: the names of the women who flirted with him are specifically « always constructed the same way: myszka_a_450, alinda_a_228, butterfly_a_723, karina_b_242, maymay_a_744 , sandra_a_179, monika_c_221, primavera_a_824 and jolanda_a_375 ». Romijn reached his conclusions in the Bellingcat style, « These names are generated by Lexa.nl itself. I don’t like that at all, Lexa.nl really doesn’t need them, there are enough real members, so why create false profiles?? ». Lexa.nl vehemently rejected the « investigations » by Danyo Romijn.

Music is his other passion. He began playing the piano at a young age. At 18, he was interested in hard rock and heavy metal. He played guitar in a metal group called Eclipse, then keyboards and guitar in Pink Project, a Dutch Pink Floyd tribute band. In 1995, he joined the group Nangyala, and in 1997, recorded an album of synthesiser music called Void. Danyo Romijn, alias Danyo Romein, as he was also called by the Floydian Theo, is thus a fan of the British singer, bassist, composer, wordsmith and music producer Roger Waters, the singer of Pink Floyd - the ferocious critic of the White Helmets in Syria – the best friends of Bellngcat? If that does not constitute a conflict of interests!

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Since the highly experienced experts from Australia, Belgium, Malaysia, Holland and Ukraine, who make up the Joint Investigation Team (JIT), were unable to find proof of Russian responsibility for the catastrophe, they rallied to the conclusions of Daniël Romein and the Bellingcat site: i.e. that the plane was brought down by a missile made in Russia – a strange conclusion which does not correspond to the débris of the aircraft. 
Conclusion

I shall leave the question of whether the Daniël Romein of Bellingcat is the Danyo Romijn investigated by the author to be answered by the reader. But if you should ask my opinion, I would estimate the probability as being close to 100%.

For me, as an ex-professional investigator, there is another question that needs to be asked: in what sort of pitiful state are the investigation teams led by the Dutch authorities and the Joint Investigation Team - to the point that they adopt the do-it-yourself enquiries of an amateur?

Concerning the catastrophe of Flight MH17, we have published the conclusions of the enquiry by Ivan A. Andrievskii, first Vice-President of the Russian Union of Engineers : “Analysis of the reasons for the crash of flight MH17”, by Ivan A. Andrievskii, Оdnako (Russia) , Voltaire Network, 27 September 2014.

Jürgen Cain Külbel

Translation 
Pete Kimberley

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Facebook Censoring OffG’s Links


OffG Editor


One of our readers recently brought something rather alarming to our attention via Facebook. It seems that certain of our articles, when shared, are not visible to anyone but the person who shared them. He sent us these examples:

Apparently, our content goes against Facebook’s “community standards”. These are long, and rambling, but we can assume they’re referring to this section:

Even more worryingly, when he tried to click these links he was presented with this:

Facebook won’t let him visit our site, not even from a link he himself shared. 

Facebook are claiming to “empower people to chose for themselves”, whilst actually totally removing this choice from people’s lives. Very bizarre. Quite frightening.

Further, upon getting this news we checked out our social media set up and found that our articles no longer share to facebook. The set-up has always been that freshly published articles automatically share to Facebook – where we have thousands of followers, many of whom may only have access to OffG from that platform. That no longer happens.

An interesting fact in this case: all the links Tom attempted to share were regarding Ukraine and/or MH17. 

Just last month Facebook announced they were hiring Kateryna Kruk as their “public policy manager for Ukraine”, saying her job will mainly involve “combatting Russian disinformation”.

For those of you who don’t know, Kruk (pronounced “crook”?), is a Ukrainian “political activist”, “analyst” and “social media journalist”. She rose to prominence in 2013 when, fresh out of the Soros-funded Central European University, she started tweeting about the Maidan. She tweeted so well that, one year later, the Atlantic Council gave her a prize for it.

Since then she has written for many outlets – including the Atlantic Council and The Guardian – gone on to work for the new coup-government of Ukraine in several minor administrative positions, and been given a fellowship by the European Values think tank.

She also openly celebrated the Odessa Massacre. 

 

Oh and she works for StopFake too, who have form when it comes to objecting to our existence.

Interesting coincidence.

We encourage all of our readers, who are on Facebook, to investigate this. Is it only certain topics and links? Is it all of our articles? Feel free to tell us about it in the comments below, or contact us by email or through social media…but probably not Facebook.

 

 

Read more:

https://off-guardian.org/2019/06/04/facebook-censoring-offgs-links/

 

 

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While most of the US and European disinformation — usually concocted in the bowels of the CIA, such as that of the war on Saddam — is infantile and can be unpicked like a badly sewn Monkeynian garment, the information by sites such as Wikileaks, the Voltaire Network and OffGuardian (OffG on most subjects) is far more researched, sourced from ORIGINAL documents and accurate. Though they push the Russian views with vigour, news outlet like RT and Sputnik are also far more spot on than the WashPost and the NYT. 

The Murdoch media and the Soros media are full organs of disinformation on many subjects.

 

But our bourgeois masters (see de verwoeste stad... in the dollar dollop...) know that most of us still believe in Christmas, so what's the point for them to concoct proper political news? (Ah.. that cheap trinket... in a royal fool...)

 

See also: first they came for the socialists... in imprisoning einstein for telling the truth...

 

This problem encountered on Facebook is also happenning on Google. Searches have become more "limited" and usually start with paid link or links that discreetly support the capitalist narrative.

 

Please revisit: https://www.voltairenet.org/article185484.html

a tragedy for many and for all of us...

'We don't hate the people who shot our family out of the sky': Carrying on when your world ends

These children and their granddad became a symbol of a senseless act of war, killed when MH17 was shot down. For the first time, their parents reveal how they found hope and meaning in the five years since the tragedy.



Read more and see the show...

 

Note: Russia was not involved in this tragedy. READ FROM TOP.

 

Picture below by Gus Leonisky:

 

memory

 

Condolences...

quaking in their boots...

Investigators probing the downing of a Malaysia Airlines jet in eastern Ukraine in 2014 will present new evidence later on Wednesday. 

The Dutch-led Joint Investigation Team (JIT) is expected to name suspects and announce charges for the first time. 

Flight MH17 was flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur when it was shot down, killing all 298 on board. 

Investigators blame Russian-backed separatists who they say targeted the plane with a Russian-made missile.

The Boeing 777 crashed in rebel-held eastern Ukraine on 17 July 2014, at the height of the conflict between government troops and separatists.

Russia has denied any involvement and has maintained the missile was fired from Ukrainian-held territory.

Dutch investigators will hold a press conference at 13:00 local time (11:00 GMT) on Wednesday after briefing relatives of victims.

What will investigators say?

The JIT, which seeks to try the suspects under Dutch law, has previously said it had a "long list" of persons of interest and appealed for witness help.

On Friday, prosecutors announced the release of new findings, prompting widespread reports in Dutch media that suspects will be named.

Kateryna Zelenko, a spokeswoman for Ukraine's foreign ministry, told the Unian news agency on Tuesday that "as early as tomorrow the world will hear the names of the first four people suspected of involvement".

Ms Zelenko said Dutch prosecutors would then file the case in a Netherlands court. 

"The guilt of the four suspects must be proved first and foremost in court," the spokeswoman added.

Internet open source investigators Bellingcat are also due to release a new report into the crash. 

The Bellingcat team has already identified individuals it alleges may have been involved in the attack, including a military intelligence colonel in the rebel-held Donetsk area known as Khmuryi (gloomy), and a military intelligence official commanding Russian-backed separatists in Luhansk who went by the codename of Orion.

What is known about the crash? 

MH17 left Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport at 10:15 GMT on 17 July 2014 and was due to arrive at Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia the following day.

About four hours after take-off, the plane lost contact with air traffic control about 50km (30 miles) from the Russia-Ukraine border.

Read more:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48685584

 

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"obviously"....

 

Dutch Prosecutors have finally – five years later – named the first suspects in the downing of Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 over the Donbass region of Ukraine in July 2014.

To absolutely no one’s surprise, they are Russian.

Well, three Russians and one Ukrainian.

The announcement was made by Dutch prosecutors at a press conference this afternoon (Wed 19th). The names are Igor Girkin, Sergey Dubinskiy, Oleg Pulatov and Leonid Kharchenko. All four have been involved in fighting for the independence of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions of Ukraine since the coup government launched their assault on the region in 2014.

All four are also – allegedly – either ex-Russian soldiers or ex-intelligence operatives. But as we have seen with the Skripal case, and various other incidents in recent years, the mainstream media play pretty fast and loose with accusations of “Russian spy”.

Most telling, perhaps, is the fact that, though all four are Russian or associated with Russia, none are actually officially affiliated with the Russian government or Russian military. Considering the accusations that have been flying around since the incident occurred, this could be considered a cautious first official charge, or even a form of climbdown. A token charge, to refresh the anti-Russia sentiment and distract from other issues.

The charges themselves are largely moot, seeing as the Russian constitution forbids the extradition of Russian citizens. There will be no trial at which the accused are present, meaning the Dutch prosecutor – if they choose to proceed – will have to try the men in absentia, or hold a ludicrous “inquiry” that mirrors the Litvinenko farce the UK held in 2015. 

Within 2 hours The Guardian had 3 stories dedicated to it – including one each by inveterate anti-Russia propagandists Luke Harding and Shaun Walker. This is very speedy writing.

Considering the verbiage dedicated to this subject it is remarkable what information they neglected to include:

So, the questions become:

  1. Can you trust the findings of an investigation of which one of the main suspects was an active member, with veto power?
  2. How reliable are “citizen journalists” when they are funded by US gov’t backed NGOs?
  3. Why are they making this announcement now? Is it to stoke anti-Russia feeling, or just a distraction?
  4. Will there be more charges? Or more sanctions as a result of these charges?
  5. Was the investigation “politically motivated" as Dr Muhamad claimed?
  6. Will the Dutch prosecute these men in absentia?
  7. Would that process violate their rights?

Read more:

https://off-guardian.org/2019/06/19/discuss-mh17-suspects-named/

 

Another "Saddam has weapons of mass destruction" invention.

 

The point would be "How did they do it by shooting the plane from another plane" as it is 99 per cent the most possible scenario rather than use a rocket from the ground which was NEVER SEEN... by anybody, not even recorded on radars? 

 

Luke Harding at the Guardian is a fabulator with exclusive connections to the fairies at the bottom of the garden of Belling-cat that has as much credibility as a toadstool with blue spots.

 

obviously

 


see how it's done...

In a very loony article by Jonathan Marcus, the respectable Beeb tells us, without fear or favour, but PLENTY OF ASSUMPTIONS and much of it WITHOUT PROOFS bedtime stories on the Skripals and MH17... Yes, Russia is guilty of everything except for Khashoggi's murder, done by our friends, the Saudis... But who can we put in prison for all these despicable murders?

 

 

See this is how it's done:

 

Comment about all the cases as if all of them were open and shut case. We have the proofs for the Khashoggi's murder, as supplied by the Turks, but we have NO PROOFS for the others, MH17 or the Skripals. NONE. ZERO. NADA.

 

With the Skripals, we only have the words of MI(add your favourite number 5, 7, 6) or a Cat that "biels" with amateurish disinformation, contradictory hospital records and people who have disappeared from the landscape despite being alive after having been hit with the most dangerous poison on earth that kills in second, by frying the brain, etc... No proofs. No motive. no bodies...

 

In regard to MH17, there is no proofs either. NO MISSILE, just an old fuel reservoir of an old Russian made rocket (it's written on it : proudly made in Ruskyland) presented to the public about 3 years after the event. Yoopiee!

 

So, who can we put in prison for all these despicable murders? My first option, would be to bring Blair, Bush and Howard in front of the international tribunal. This would be easy because we KNOW WHERE THEY LIVE — and we KNOW THEY DID IT. What did they do? They lied about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction. The entire network of the five eyes "intelligence" agencies were briefed to lie by their governments. And they went to war illegally. RESULT: at least 200,000 people killed according to the military record that does not count the dead civilians and more than one million dead according to the morgues... PLUS about 4 million people displaced — and some atrocious actions such as in Fallujah where WHITE PHOSPHORUS BOMBS were used...

 

So Proofs? Read:

http://www.yourdemocracy.net.au/drupal/node/11276

 

 

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sorry, what hard faces?...

O'Brien's parents John and Meryn, who live in Sydney's south-west, admitted seeing the men identified was gut-wrenching.

"I thought, what hard faces of people who could commit this sort of act and completely disregard it," Mr O'Brien said.

"I also looked at the faces of the average soldiers from that brigade and wondered if any of them were remorseful for the role they played."

The Boeing 777 was travelling over an area in eastern Ukraine held by pro-Russia separatists when it was struck by a BUK surface-to-air missile.

Chief prosecutor Fred Westerbeke claimed the four suspects were responsible for bringing the missile launcher into the area it was used to shoot down the flight.

 

Read more:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-20/mh17-murder-charge-announcement-p...

 

Hey, they haven't been "judged" nor "proven to be the people who did it"... At this stage, I know some very nice guys, who look like murderers on their passport photograph. This is not an admission of guilt, nor is it an admission they are the culprit. This is an assumption by an investigation that has hidden and fudged a lot of its "deliberations" while using unreliable information from a Bellingcat organisation designed to plant disinformation in the media. So far there is not a skerrick of proof on who did it AND HOW THEY DID IT.

 

SEE THE FACES of US chopper pilots laughing all the way after having bombed kids in Mosul... I know it's a contrast with serious Ruskies, so hold your bile, please...

 

Russia called regrettable the “absolutely baseless” accusations made by the international investigation into the downing of Malaysian Airlines flight MH17, which said the Russian military was involved in the incident.

On Wednesday, the Dutch-led Joint Investigations Team (JIT) accused three Russians nationals and a Ukrainian of playing a significant role in the downing of MH17 over Ukraine in 2014. All 298 people onboard died back then.

The JIT said the individuals, who were fighting on the side of the rebel forces in eastern Ukraine, received a Buk surface-to-air missile from Russia, possibly provided by the Russian military. The Russian foreign ministry said such accusations “deserve only regret.”

On top of that, the allegations were not backed up by reliable evidence and followed a “not quite coherent” line of argument. At the same time, the ministry maintains, JIT still opts to ignore information provided by Moscow.

 

Read more:

https://www.rt.com/news/462224-russia-response-jit-mh17-report/

simon tells fallacied fairy tales again...

The past week threw up glaring examples of how leaders lie – cynically, shamelessly and routinely. After a meticulous inquiry, international investigators announced three Russians and a Ukrainian will face murder charges over a ground-to-air missile attack in eastern Ukraine in 2014 that brought down Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17, killing 298 people.

The evidence tying these individuals to Vladimir Putin’s government is overwhelming, based on witness testimony, satellite images and intercepted phone calls to Moscow. The Buk missile launcher used in the attack has been tracked from its base in Kursk to Ukraine and back again. All three Russians worked for their country’s security apparatus. It’s a safe bet they did not act alone.

 

Read more:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/22/age-of-the-shameless-lie-m...

 

 

Crap. Sure we know that Riyadh lied about the Khashoggi murder... Or did it? No, the only thing we do not know is at what level has the crown Prince been involved.

 

We know that trump editorialised about the Mueller report, which itself editorialised on the Russian involvement or not in the 2016 US presidential elections. At this level, the main problem for the Democrats is should they choose to impeach Trump for whatever, it is likely to expose that the Obama administration lied to create some info to discredit Trump. Had the FBI explored the DNC computers for possible leaks, we might have found the source of the Wikileaks information. But the FBI chose not to. It was easier to blame the Ruskies with flimsy "evidence" which are no more but hear-say in the style of "Saddam has weapons of mass destruction". 

 

As far as the MH17 is concerned, there is not a single proof placed on the table. And Russia shooting down an airliner makes no sense at all, as much as there is no proof. Most of the information has come from fantasists and idiots who fit the narrative we wish. But it's crap.

 

One can see that Simon is hell-bent on making a substandard subprime package, mixing half-truth, lies and porkies, like the bankers of the Lehmann brothers...

 

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russia had nothing to do with it...

MOSCOW (Sputnik) - The Kremlin confirmed that Russian President Vladimir Putin, at the G20 summit, briefly discussed with Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte the 2014 crash of the MH17 flight in Ukraine.

"I can confirm this conversation, it was a very brief conversation on the go, on the sidelines. In addition to the prime minister of the Netherlands, Putin had such conversations with almost all the participants of the summit. Indeed, the issue of the president’s position and the position of the Russian side was raised", Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters.

According to Peskov, it is hardly possible to perceive an investigation, which is carried out without the participation of the Russian Federation.

On 1 July, Dutch media reported that Rutte discussed with Putin at the G20 summit in Japan's Osaka the MH17 crash in Ukraine.

Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17 was downed over eastern Ukraine on 17 July 2014, amid a military conflict in the county caused by a violent coup d’état in Kiev. All 298 passengers of the aircraft, predominantly Dutch and Malaysian nationals, died in the crash. 

Almost immediately after the incident, the US and its European allies claimed without presenting any evidence that Russia was responsible for the tragedy. These allegations were used by Washington and Brussels as a pretext to introduce sanctions against Moscow, while Russia repeatedly denied the accusations.

A Dutch-led Joint Investigation Team (JIT), formed soon after the crash, invited Ukraine, Belgium, and Australia to join the probe, but excluded Russia from the probe.

 

Read more:

https://sputniknews.com/russia/201907031076132809-kremlin-confirms-putin...

 

 

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